Beyond Basic NITs: When is Liver Biopsy or Advanced Imaging
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In this episode, Brian Lam, PA, Associate Director of Research at Inova’s Liver and Obesity Research Program in Northern Virginia, explores the nuanced decision-making involved in going beyond basic non-invasive tests (NITs) for diagnosing and managing MASH (metabolic dysfunction-associated steatohepatitis). While FIB-4 and transient elastography are useful initial tools, Brian breaks down when and why clinicians should consider more advanced diagnostics—such as MR elastography (MRE), proton density fat fraction (PDFF), and in certain cases, liver biopsy. Learn how to assess the reliability of a TE exam, interpret discordant NITs, and when to escalate to cross-sectional imaging or histologic confirmation. This podcast also highlights the evolving role of fat fraction in therapy response, limitations in current FDA indications for resmetirom, and how emerging data may shape future clinical pathways for patients with compensated cirrhosis. Whether you're in primary care, GI, or hepatology, this discussion offers critical insights to improve accuracy in staging liver disease and optimizing treatment strategies for patients with MASH.
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